Sam Ovens: 00:00 Hey everyone, Sam Ovens here, and today I have Corin Hinderegger on with us, and Corin helps heart centered coaches to achieve well being and also unlock their financial success. She joined Consulting Accelerator about three months ago now, and at that time, she was already catching. She was already in this niche and in this space, and she was making in between two grand, two and a half grand to five grand a month, kind of fluctuating between those two numbers.
Sam Ovens: 00:32 And in the three months since she's joined, she's been able to grow her business to the point now where it's making around $20,000 per month, so that's quite a big improvement. In this interview, we're going to talk about her niche, what she does, problems she solves for people, why she got into it, and also, you know, how she was able to really [inaudible 00:00:53] her business in like, in three months. Thanks for jumping on with me.
Corin Hinderegg: 00:58 You're welcome. Good to be here.
Sam Ovens: 01:04 Let's talk about three months ago, what was going on then?
Corin Hinderegg: 01:12 Well, I found I did well, very well, like I had a coaching program for about a year, and I really enjoyed my work, and I loved to see the changes in my clients. What one of the big things what changed for me was, in the first week you were talking about, like scaling it down, the programs we using to about six to 12 weeks. I gave it a lot of thought, and thought about, how can I give my clients the success I can give them in a year in 12 weeks?
Corin Hinderegg: 01:53 I did a trial, and it worked beautifully. I got the same or even better success as I kept them going. They didn't have the gaps in between, and now I'm able to offer 12 weeks coaching programs for the same price that I charged with the yearly coaching program. What makes a huge difference for me.
Sam Ovens: 02:14 Got it, and then ... what made you like, even want ... what was going on in your business three months ago before you joined, and how did you find out about me and Consulting Accelerator, and why did you want to buy it? I'm just trying to understand where your business was at, and what you were trying to do?
Corin Hinderegg: 02:36 I just wanted to upscale. I found it maybe a year ago, but it didn't feel the right timing, as I have three little boys, and when you popped up again on some ads, it just felt ... it just felt the right time. I jumped on it.
Sam Ovens: 02:56 Got it, and why did you want to scale up your business?
Corin Hinderegg: 03:02 To have more leavage, to have more freedom of doing what I love and earning the value of it.
Sam Ovens: 03:11 And what do you love?
Corin Hinderegg: 03:13 I love seeing people transform. I love seeing, when someone is stuck, they miserable, they usually, their health declines and they're not feeling good, and for me, it just brings me great joy to see them change, as usually, their whole being changes, all their ... you know, their surrounding changes, and that just really makes me happy.
Sam Ovens: 03:37 Got it.
Corin Hinderegg: 03:38 Yeah.
Sam Ovens: 03:42 And you wanted to scale so that you could see that happen more often to more people?
Corin Hinderegg: 03:48 Yeah, I wanted to ... yeah. Reach more people, and help more people, be able to help more people, and also, I wanted to have more money for my own freedom and my own family, yeah.
Sam Ovens: 04:03 Got it, and then what was it about, you know, my ad or my webinar or me that made you resonate with it and think, oh, this thing looks like a good opportunity?
Corin Hinderegg: 04:20 I'm not 100% sure, it just felt right, and I'm always going with my gut feeling. One thing always stood out for me is that you started by nothing. You didn't have anything. You had debt, you just started out like, literally with nothing, and I love the mindset work. For me the biggest shift was like, really creating my next, best version, and that really made a change.
Corin Hinderegg: 04:50 I love the way you approach things. It's layered, it's not just like, here's a business plan, go out and do it. It's like, really layered, and you address like, so many different levels, and it's, yeah. I really like that.
Sam Ovens: 05:06 Got it, and then, how did you get into this? Like, into what you're doing now? How did it all begin?
Corin Hinderegg: 05:18 Well, it began fairly early in my life. My background is, I'm a naturopath and medical intuitive, and also coach. I always could see what's wrong, or what's the hidden cause in people when they suffered, and when they had an issue. I could see that all my life, and so I trained in more modalities than I can think of, and most of them are good, but there was a small trait, there is a huge mindset part and discovering part of myself, and I just found things were working and things aren't working.
Corin Hinderegg: 05:55 And what brought me into the coaching was, I had a really successful clinic back in Europe, and I went into burnout. We moved to New Zealand just so I could sort of settle down, slow down and take more care of myself, and by doing so, I discovered a lot of what's within me, and how I can, yeah. Can change my hidden root causes, who brought me to the point I have been, and now I'm able to help other coaches to, or help practitioners to do the same, as there is always a balance, you know? It's not just work and it's not just play. You need to find a balance within, otherwise your health suffers, or your financial well being suffers.
Corin Hinderegg: 06:46 Either way, there is always something suffering, and that's why I, yeah. That's why it came to life. That's just my experience I had over the years, and also my gifts that I sort of can, I can quickly pinpoint what's wrong, or especially when people telling me like, they've done 100 trainings, and they keep coming, falling back into old patterns. That's usually where I come in. That's usually where I'm really good at, as I can sort of get the hidden root causes out, and so we can work on moving them forward.
Sam Ovens: 07:21 And how do you do that?
Corin Hinderegg: 07:21 It's probably a mix of things, like I do a lot of coachings, where we really go deep, and I also do like I said, I'm a naturopath and medical intuitive, so I usually always see what's wrong with their body and look in, how can we bring the body into balance again, and support the body? Whatever needs the body, you know? We are all individual, we are all different, in each program of mine, I always look into the money stories, I look into the hidden root cause of what brings their body out of alignment, out of balance, and once we address that, the rest is really individual, as everyone needs a different attention. It fluctuates, it really fluctuates, what we are going to address, as like I said, and everyone is different.
Sam Ovens: 08:23 And then, let's talk about your niche. You say that's heart, heart centered coaches?
Corin Hinderegg: 08:32 Heart centered coaches, yeah.
Sam Ovens: 08:34 And what does that mean?
Corin Hinderegg: 08:37 Coaches who care, someone who wants to make an impact. I usually not working with someone who is just after the money. That's not, that wouldn't fulfill me. I work with people who want to make an impact, who really care about what's happening in the world, and what's happening for them and their family.
Corin Hinderegg: 08:56 Someone who wants to make a change for the better, for themselves and for heaps of their clients.
Sam Ovens: 09:04 Are there coaches that don't care?
Corin Hinderegg: 09:08 I have seen coaches who care about themselves and their money, yes.
Sam Ovens: 09:15 Got it.
Corin Hinderegg: 09:15 Absolutely.
Sam Ovens: 09:17 It's a strange thing, it's a strange field to choose, to just try and make some money, you know? There's a lot of other things you could do.
Corin Hinderegg: 09:26 Yeah.
Sam Ovens: 09:28 That would ... yeah, you could do like, you could go work on Wall Street, you could become a professional gambler, you could do all sorts of things that are just financial related, but coaching? It seems like a weird thing to choose for someone who just wants to make money, purely.
Corin Hinderegg: 09:46 Well, I have seen it quite often, but usually, I think usually it's not when they start out with debts, usually not when they begin with it, but it sort of, it becomes, and often it probably doesn't become because ... often it becomes because they're desperate. They're looking for something or fulfillment they can't get somewhere else, I assume.
Sam Ovens: 10:11 Hm, so they probably started caring, and then just got lost.
Corin Hinderegg: 10:18 Probably, yeah.
Sam Ovens: 10:19 Got it. Yeah, I see that all the time, actually, with gym owners, because a gym's a weird thing to start for people who don't care. Usually they would want to start it because they want to get people fit and healthy, but then along the way they forget, and then they're just focusing on the numbers and things, and the ads, and ... I see that happen with a lot of people. You don't work with those people?
Corin Hinderegg: 10:48 Well, it depends. If I see that they have potential to get back to caring and their root, like why they started it, the reason behind it, I probably would, but if I just ... if someone comes to me just to improve their financial well being and doesn't really want to improve their overall well being, I'm probably the wrong person.
Sam Ovens: 11:13 But aren't the two the same thing?
Corin Hinderegg: 11:16 No.
Sam Ovens: 11:17 Really?
Corin Hinderegg: 11:18 No, I don't think so.
Sam Ovens: 11:21 Because the easiest, I've found that money comes from value. Value comes from helping people, and if you want money, you achieve it through helping people, you know what I mean? Helping people is caring, the more you care, the more money you make.
Corin Hinderegg: 11:43 Often, not always. Like ... you need to ... when you ... like when you're just interested in a short term fix, that's what I keep saying. That's what my clients keep telling me. They've been there, they've done that, they've been to like, whatever. They've done all sorts of trainings, they've done all sorts of coaching, and they always improving, and they always get sort of a step ahead, but then they keep falling backwards into old patterns. That's for me, a short term fix and not a long run fix, and that doesn't work for me.
Corin Hinderegg: 12:25 If I would provide only a short term fix, I wouldn't feel comfortable in charging good amount of money, but if I'm really interested in their long term goals and success and well being, I can, yeah. I'm happily charging a lot of money.
Sam Ovens: 12:44 Got it.
Corin Hinderegg: 12:45 It's ways like, it's always your approach or how you can stand behind it, or what you want to do or what you want to achieve in your life, and with your clients.
Sam Ovens: 12:57 And what sort of patterns keep presenting themselves, universally, among mot people that you've observed, that are struggling as a coach?
Corin Hinderegg: 13:13 Their beliefs, like it's often, I've found, they're often stuck in sort of a, I usually call it like a family paradigm, that it's really hard for them to step out from what they have seen in their family. They can achieve or what they can do, and it just often, really stuck in that sort of ... little field of what they can do. Then there is, I call it [inaudible 00:13:41], it's really simple, they go out, and they really achieve something and they make the numbers. They feel good about themselves, they can support themselves, they can support others, and all of a sudden, the money's gone again.
Corin Hinderegg: 13:57 They try to step out of their family paradigm, but keep falling backwards in it. I always look into these patterns and see, okay, how can we move onto, that it doesn't have to happen again? What is really ... what is the hidden cost they're not aware of? Like, my clients, most of my clients keep telling me like, I would have never guessed that this or that is holding me back. It's just usually, it's really often it's family stories.
Sam Ovens: 14:32 What's an example?
Corin Hinderegg: 14:42 An example, just let me think about something. A client of mine, she kept like ... she kept earning the money, and all of a sudden, by the end of the month, there was usually the same amount gone or more, and she earned more than enough money, and when we looked into it, we found she kept like sort of earning the same amount than her dad did, with the fluctuation of the time, but she never got out of the pattern of her dad, of the earning what he had. She always had to worry about if she's getting enough in, even though she had lots of times where she did it, but then is all of a sudden, it was gone.
Corin Hinderegg: 15:29 Or another client of mine, her dad went in bankruptcy, so she had a good business, and when ... it's nearly funny, but it's actually not funny, but when her, when she had the age her dad had when he went bankruptcy, she went bankruptcy. That's usually, that's a thing that I keep seeing, like that's just a pattern, a reoccurring pattern who comes up, and they often not aware of it. And they often just don't know, because it's just their life, how they live it and how they, yeah, what they made out of it. But they can seem to change it by themselves, as they're not seeing it. You can't change something if you're not seeing it.
Sam Ovens: 16:17 Got it. You're just trying to make them aware of unconscious patterns that are playing out, and then when they can see them, sometimes they're like, oh, shit, and then they attempt to change?
Corin Hinderegg: 16:30 It's not that they attempt the change. I do a lot of, a lot of my coaching is bast on EFT and other modalities who work very well in really making the change, and making a quick change. I do support them and give them tools, how they can support themselves when something pops up, or something reoccurring is happening.
Sam Ovens: 16:53 Got it, and then, what ... we've discussed like what these coaches' real, underlying problems are, but they're not aware of these as the problems. When you talk to them, what are they thinking is their problem?
Corin Hinderegg: 17:15 They often don't know, to be frankly often. They often, they don't know. They just ... the main thing they come to me and tell me is, that they not feeling good in their body, or that they, all of them, worry financially. Like, it doesn't matter how much they earn. All of them really worry about their finances. They worry about that they have to rely on a partner, or if they can make it by their own.
Corin Hinderegg: 17:43 It's, in general, it's the financial worry, how will next week or next month will be, you know? They just don't know, they can't predict, and then often, it's combined with not feeling too well in their body. Not having the energy they want to have. Not having the ... not seeing how they can move forward in their health and well being, and that's always connected with money, as if you had money. You can buy good food, you can take care of yourself, and you know, there is so much goodness you can do with money.
Corin Hinderegg: 18:20 But if you worry about money, your body is just stressed out, and doesn't cope too well.
Sam Ovens: 18:26 Got it, and then, how do you go about packaging together, you know, the advice that you provide. You said you do a course, but do you ... is that an online course in a portal, with a log in? Do you provide them with a Facebook group, too, or do you do one on one with them? How do you train these people?
Corin Hinderegg: 18:50 I do one on one with them. They get 12 sessions with me. I do some extra work, they get ... [Quantic 00:19:01] support. Quantic is a Quantum Physic device. They get some quantic support as well, as it just makes it a lot easier for them, it's a lot-
Sam Ovens: 19:09 What does that thing do?
Corin Hinderegg: 19:13 Quantic is the leading Quantum Physic device worldwide, and what it does, it works on an outcome. For example, depending on what you desire, what your outcome will be, Quantic will ... Quantic will assess what needs to happen. What information you need to achieve the success or this outcome. It quite doesn't matter what kind of outcome you working on, as long it's for the highest good of all. For example, if you have an outcome who would harm someone, it wouldn't work.
Sam Ovens: 19:54 And how does this thing compute this?
Corin Hinderegg: 19:57 Compute ... well, it's Quantum physic, it's like a lot in depth information, probably would take a couple of hours to give you all the information, but what it does, it's called white noise. They reset device, and what I do, I have to put in all the details of the person, add a photo, and then work out the outcome they desire.
Corin Hinderegg: 20:25 For example, one of my clients really sleeps badly, and I'm in New Zealand and she is in Germany, and she sleeps very badly, and her outcome, and her desire is that she sleeps very well. Since, I think two years, we have this outcome in Quantic, and Quantic did assess what is needed for her to sleep through the night and actually fall asleep. That was her issue, falling asleep and sleep through the night. We put that in as an outcome, and Quantic made the assessment, like with the white noise, where it sort of scans her energetic field and made assessment what she needs to sleep through.
Corin Hinderegg: 21:11 And Quantic, once it's done, once it's set up, Quantic sends her with the white noise this information, every couple of hours. Her system, she doesn't have to do anything, her system-
Sam Ovens: 21:24 What's the output of this device? How does it tell her what to do?
Corin Hinderegg: 21:29 It doesn't tell her what to do. It just, it does it. It just, it gives the information, it pops up. It's just a ... it's a computer with a add on device, you can-
Sam Ovens: 21:42 But how does the output come out? Because we know what the inputs are, right? Photo, different things, but what is the output function?
Corin Hinderegg: 21:51 That's the white noise. It generates, there is a generated on it, and it generates this white noise, that's what call it. That's what's called, and so the white noise, sends the information to her, who assessed it before, who is needed for her to sleep through.
Sam Ovens: 22:12 But can we decode the white noise, to see if it is ... or ... because it's kind of like ... because I'm just thinking about this thing. It's like, how do we fact check it? How do we know that it's working?
Corin Hinderegg: 22:24 Oh they did a lot, heaps of university study tests, and like ... I can't, I finished an example with my client in Germany. Anyway, we had a, she's sleeping like a baby since Quantic is on, and we had a power outage, a couple of months ago in Oakland, and I didn't notice, because it was in the middle of night, I didn't know that my computer with the Quantic was off. I didn't turn it back on, I just didn't know. Anyway, a day later, I got an email asking if Quantic is on, she couldn't sleep, and she couldn't have known. I didn't know, and then I checked the computer and the computer was off.
Sam Ovens: 23:13 So your computer is the brain for all of your clients' Quantics?
Corin Hinderegg: 23:18 Yeah, sort of. The computer has a ... the back up device, who also generates the white noise, but it needs power from the computer to do that.
Sam Ovens: 23:33 Got it. Sounds like something that should be on a cloud server, so that stuff like that doesn't happen.
Corin Hinderegg: 23:40 Right, it is on a cloud server too, like all my information, all the information from my Quantic is backed up to a cloud, but it's just like the device itself, needs the power to send the white noise. That's the only thing.
Sam Ovens: 23:56 Got it.
Corin Hinderegg: 23:57 I just had to turn it back on, as this device just needs the power, and the other thing is, I did like, they did amazing studies, like with Quantic where, Quantic won all the gold and prizes and is proven to help, and like the professor who tested it, he just said, it's working. He has no idea how it's working, but it's working.
Corin Hinderegg: 24:20 And what they did, they had two rooms, and they put a certain amount of plants in the room, and they shut the blinds, and they closed the door, and that was about it. And they left the plants in this room for a couple of weeks, and then they had a control room where they did exactly the same, but from each plant, they took a photo and put it in Quantic, and Quantic just supported each and every individual plant, that it feels nourished, that it has everything it needs, and it's healthy.
Corin Hinderegg: 24:55 After a couple of weeks, they opened both doors, and the first room, all the plants were dead, and in the other room, all the plants were thriving and flowering, and were very well. The professor just said like, he doesn't know how it's working, it just works.
Sam Ovens: 25:10 What happened there? They had plants, why did some die and some didn't?
Corin Hinderegg: 25:17 In the first room, Quantic didn't support any plant. What they did, they put it in a dark room, like they closed all the blinds and everything, and they didn't water them. They didn't, the plants didn't have any light, they just locked the door from the room and left the plants inside without caring about them.
Corin Hinderegg: 25:35 And in the second room, they did the same, the only different was, in the second room, they took a photo from each plant, put it in Quantic, Quantic made an assessment about what this plants needs to thrive and feel healthy, you know, be healthy, and so on, and Quantic supported each plant in the second in the control room, but both rooms had no light. They didn't water, they didn't fertilize, they didn't do anything with the plants. They just locked the doors, and the plants in the first room, they all died, and in the second one, who was supported by Quantic, all of it-
Sam Ovens: 26:13 But that's a correlation, not a causation, you know what I mean. It's like, I could see someone walk past on the beach, and see their face and hear their name, and then I could, then I could also see someone else walk past on the beach, and then one person ends up surfing, dies, and the other person lives, and I think, "Oh, that's because I thought about that. I thought that lady looked healthy," you know what I mean?
Corin Hinderegg: 26:40 There were quite a few plants, it wasn't just one plant. The whole rooms were full with plants, and this happened in both rooms the same. In the first room, all the plants were dead. In the second one, they weren't.
Sam Ovens: 26:55 Yeah, it's just also that involves along, from its initial conditions, you know? We don't know the inception of the plant, the initial conditions that were present among it, and then one plant's initial conditions, you know, if a plant's dying and other plants are in proximity to it, it's going to harm the others, you know what I mean? There's all sorts of things that could have ... my brain's just going a million miles an hour just thinking of every different variable in this thing, and ... it's interesting, I'm going to check it out, but I always ... I just, I'm always skeptical of things you can't fact check, you know?
Sam Ovens: 27:32 Because if you put in an input, cool. It's going to spit out an output, cool. But if we can't decode the output, and if we can't measure it, but we're just told, "Trust it. It's right," that makes me extremely skeptical, you know? It's like someone being like, "Trust me. I'm God. There's no way for me to prove it, but just believe me. Just believe me, I am, and you should do whatever I say," and then the person's like, "but how? How come, you can't prove it." And he's like, "Just trust me." You know what I mean?
Corin Hinderegg: 28:08 Yeah, I do know what you mean, and you know, I'm a very, to be honest, I'm a very skeptical person, in general. With Quantic, they did like, there was just one test, they did really many tests, and for me, Quantic is just an additional support I give my clients.
Sam Ovens: 28:27 I'll have to check it out, because I ... I ... you know, I think there is definitely some cool stuff with quantum physics that we have no idea about. I think stuff like, weird stuff, will emerge, that blows our mind, you know, because we don't even understand it, really, but I want to see, like ... I want to like, be able to measure it, you know what I mean? Like fact check it. You put in an output, the output comes out, and we just run millions of computations through it and check for accuracy.
Corin Hinderegg: 29:08 Yeah. Well, for me, it was fairly like, sort of accurate, that my client emailed me in Germany, and we both didn't know that I had a shortage, you know, power outage. That was fairly accurate.
Sam Ovens: 29:24 Yeah, but we don't know that that's because of the Quantic.
Corin Hinderegg: 29:28 No, we don't know, but it could have been like a ... like a surprising coincidence, you know? We never know, and the other thing is, to be frankly honest, it's not allowed in the US. Like, the US government banned Quantic because it's working, and they don't want anyone interfering with the government in the US with the Quantic, but it's totally strange, because Quantic, it doesn't matter where Quantic is, it always works, but anyway, in the US you're not allowed to bring it into the US.
Sam Ovens: 30:05 I'm definitely going to get one now, then. I'm going to have a look. That's weird. It sounds, it's got all of these traits of one of these things, you know? Like, the government doesn't want you to have it, you know what I mean? They always say these things, you know? The government is going to take over the world, they don't want you to know anything. They don't want you to have this device. It'll ... like, because you have to have a reason for banning something, you know what I mean? For example, you ban a particular smartphone because its battery keeps blowing up, right? It's an actual hazard, so they ban it.
Sam Ovens: 30:49 But how do you ban a device? You can't say, "we're worried about this thing threatening our government power structure, therefore we've banned it." You can't. It's not a reason, you know what I mean?
Corin Hinderegg: 31:02 [inaudible 00:31:02]. But anyway, that's when I got my Quantic, they taught me like, I'm not allowed to take it to the US, but I'm fine in New Zealand.
Sam Ovens: 31:10 Got it, and then ... you do 12 weeks and it's one on one for the 12 weeks.
Corin Hinderegg: 31:18 Yeah. I don't do-
Sam Ovens: 31:21 How do you price your 12 week program?
Corin Hinderegg: 31:26 Well, I charge 8 and a half grand.
Sam Ovens: 31:29 Got it, and how do you go about getting your clients?
Corin Hinderegg: 31:34 That's a good question. Usually, they find me. Usually, I don't really have a platform. I don't do any social media. I don't do anything. They usually just find me, and I have clients worldwide.
Sam Ovens: 31:53 But how? They have to ... they have to find a breadcrumb?
Corin Hinderegg: 31:57 I guess mainly word of mouth, I guess. I would say, yeah.
Sam Ovens: 32:03 You just sit on your chair, and just like, look at the wall, and then?
Corin Hinderegg: 32:10 No.
Sam Ovens: 32:11 Because it never really happens like that, you know?
Corin Hinderegg: 32:13 Well, with me it does. Yeah, with me it does, but I don't sit in a chair and look at the wall, I don't.
Sam Ovens: 32:21 But you don't, you don't do nothing.
Corin Hinderegg: 32:21 Pardon?
Sam Ovens: 32:23 You don't do nothing.
Corin Hinderegg: 32:26 No, I don't do nothing. I do something, I provide them with the change they want, and like, if I provide my client with the change they want, they thrilled and they bring me new clients.
Sam Ovens: 32:38 But how does the first client happen then?
Corin Hinderegg: 32:43 I don't know, it just happened.
Sam Ovens: 32:46 But there has effort, there is always like, cause, you know what I mean?
Corin Hinderegg: 32:51 There is always cause. I would say probably ... like ... when I turn up, I'm present and I listen to people. Probably the first few clients happened because someone asked me what I'm doing, and I explained it. I would guess, and then, yeah, the rest of the clients ... yeah, it always, they come literally with referrals. They heard about me, they heard the good work I'm doing, and I think it's ... if you do an amazing job. If you provide the value, you will always have clients.
Sam Ovens: 33:28 Yeah, that's true, like, but there always has to be a first, you know what I mean? Because ... when people are telling other people, "Dude, go buy this thing, it's awesome." People will buy it, and then they'll tell people, and then they'll tell people, and it just spreads, but it has to start somewhere, you know?
Corin Hinderegg: 33:44 Yeah. Well, I ... when I reflect on it, I would say that most first ones, I got from when I went on, doing trainings, it's a funny story. I love trainings. Not quite certifications, but I love learning. I always love learning. I want to learn more. I want to be able to provide the best service, and so I'm always, immersed myself with new studies and learning more, and every time I go out, and do a training or learning something new, I meet people and usually I get bookings out of it, but I don't do it for the bookings. I just really actually do it because I want to learn more, or you know, grow my understanding of things. I love knowledge.
Corin Hinderegg: 34:44 Often, I meet people at these occasions, and usually I get one or two clients out of it, and then they are happy, and then they refer me new clients, and that's why I ... and there isn't, like I have clients in Canada, in the US, in Australia, in New Zealand, in Europe, in seven, eight countries in Europe, and usually it always started with one or two, and then they spread the news.
Sam Ovens: 35:12 Hm. Through being a student, you've become a teacher.
Corin Hinderegg: 35:17 Yeah.
Sam Ovens: 35:18 That's always how it works.
Corin Hinderegg: 35:21 Yeah.
Sam Ovens: 35:21 Sometimes the best way isn't to think, "I'm a teacher, so I should be teaching people." Like, a teacher is a good student, you know what I mean? You achieve it through its opposite.
Corin Hinderegg: 35:34 Yeah.
Sam Ovens: 35:35 And that's exactly what happens. You go and be a good student, somehow you end up being a teacher as well. That's how it works, that's fascinating. You think about it, how does a teacher become good at teaching? Through being a really good student, you know? Someone doesn't skip their process. Someone doesn't just go, "Oh, I'm just a teacher all of a sudden. Come everybody, come and learn from me!"
Corin Hinderegg: 36:03 It will be a bit.
Sam Ovens: 36:05 And anyone who ever stops being a student, at the moment they do, will cease to be a teacher.
Corin Hinderegg: 36:11 Mm-hmm (affirmative).
Sam Ovens: 36:13 It's interesting. People, in their minds, they have these separate entities of teacher, student, one is not the other, one is the inverse of the other, therefore if I want to teach, I should teach, not to learn, and if I want to be a student, I should listen and not teach, and this is a horrible mess in someone's brain, you know what I mean?
Corin Hinderegg: 36:39 Yeah.
Sam Ovens: 36:40 It's the same thing.
Corin Hinderegg: 36:40 One doesn't exist without the other.
Sam Ovens: 36:43 It's the same thing, it's one thing, yeah. Same with like, caring and money, because it's fascinating, like Boeing, when they said their admission statement. You know Boeing, the airplane statement? Their admission statement used to be, "To make the world's best airplane." And they did, they made the world's best airplane, and they were the most successful company in the world, financially and everything.
Sam Ovens: 37:10 Then some new executive took over with a suit and everything, and an MBA probably from Harvard or something, and he changed the mission statement to be the most like, "productive, cost conscious, efficient enterprise," some shit like that, and it ended up bombing. They ended up like, almost going bankrupt, and their planes sucked, and they opened a pocket for airbus to come in and basically like, they gave them the foothold into the market, and then ... you know, by trying to make money, you don't.
Sam Ovens: 37:49 That's what I was saying before, you make money as an accidental byproduct of solving a problem and adding value, which comes you can't do that without caring, you know what I mean?
Corin Hinderegg: 38:01 Mm-hmm (affirmative).
Sam Ovens: 38:04 Mm-hmm (affirmative). It's interesting, when people think they want to make money, and not care, like, you kind of got, it's kind of like the teacher-student thing again, you know what I mean?
Corin Hinderegg: 38:18 You need the one with the other, yeah.
Sam Ovens: 38:20 They're the same.
Corin Hinderegg: 38:21 Yeah.
Sam Ovens: 38:23 Just like you go there to learn, you somehow end up walking out teaching.
Corin Hinderegg: 38:30 Mm-hmm (affirmative).
Sam Ovens: 38:30 Yeah.
Corin Hinderegg: 38:32 It's always happening. It's very funny.
Sam Ovens: 38:37 And then, yeah, it's interesting. You always achieve something through it's opposite. You want to feel good? You temporarily feel bad, by like running or exercising or something like that. You want to be active, you be inactive, to rest, you sleep, and then the opposite, you know what I mean? You get to the thing through it's opposite. I see how you get clients now, and this is a good lesson for people listening. Be a good student if you want ... that is, that should always and forever be your goal, to be a student. I always consider myself a student. I'm never done and I still think of myself more as a student than a teacher.
Corin Hinderegg: 39:29 Yeah.
Sam Ovens: 39:31 And then, what were you going to say?
Corin Hinderegg: 39:34 No, go on.
Sam Ovens: 39:36 What's the future look like for you? Where do you want to take this thing, one year from now, five years from now?
Corin Hinderegg: 39:45 My goal is to support 40 goals a year. 40 plus clients a year.
Sam Ovens: 39:50 When?
Corin Hinderegg: 39:52 In the next three months.
Sam Ovens: 39:54 How many clients have you got now?
Corin Hinderegg: 39:58 I have many clients, but like, we talking just the 12 week coaching program, I have about eight.
Sam Ovens: 40:06 You want to get, you want to go from 8 to 40 in the next 12 months?
Corin Hinderegg: 40:13 Yeah.
Sam Ovens: 40:14 Why 40?
Corin Hinderegg: 40:17 I don't know. It just feels right. I always go with my feeling.
Sam Ovens: 40:21 What is your feeling?
Corin Hinderegg: 40:25 Like ... well, with 40, I can support easily without overworking, as I have three little kids.
Sam Ovens: 40:37 What, this is logic? I thought it was a feeling.
Corin Hinderegg: 40:38 No, it's a feeling too, but also it gives more people the chance to move forward in their life. I just looked into like, that's logic now. I looked into, how many can I support, so they can move forward in their life and live their, I call it vibrant self, like their true self, where they ... they're not having all the grabs and hidden patterns that hold them back, and how many can I support easily, so it's fun for me and I can really give them the attention and time they deserve?
Corin Hinderegg: 41:14 For me, it's like, top priority to be there for them. I'm not interested in selling them something, you know, half of the time, I really don't have the time for them. I looked into that, and 40 came up, and then I just had a feeling, intuit, and it felt right. If my logical mind would have said 50, 50's doable, it wouldn't have felt right, if there would be a lot of pressure on me.
Sam Ovens: 41:47 What about if you removed yourself, and you had a course instead, so you wouldn't need to do one on one.
Corin Hinderegg: 41:54 I did think about it, and that will be the future. At the moment, I don't see that I can give it, give them the same value yet, than they get in the one on ones, and I will do the programs once I know I can give them the same value. Otherwise it wouldn't feel aligned for me-
Sam Ovens: 42:15 But why do you think you can't?
Corin Hinderegg: 42:19 It is a lot individual work. It's a lot like, really digging deep into their individual root causes, and we all have similar, but not the same.
Sam Ovens: 42:31 But how does that mean a training, like a course, can't get to that same level of depth?
Corin Hinderegg: 42:42 It probably can, I just haven't figured it out yet. Just give me a few months.
Sam Ovens: 42:47 Yeah, this is why it's interesting, because everyone wrestles with this thing. There's an attachment to the one on one, you know? A huge attachment, and I had it. Everybody has it, it's so normal, and you, it's not true. You have to start with one on one, because that's where you learn. You can't just come and create a course, because there's no information in your mind about how it works, because you've never done it.
Sam Ovens: 43:16 But once you've done enough one on one, you can ... you can simulate what happens in a one on one relationship through the course, you know?
Corin Hinderegg: 43:27 Yeah, but maybe that's why the 40 come in. Maybe I feel more comfortable in having, feeling more comfortable if I did the 40 over the period of a year, and then I really know, like ... I do see pattern, and I see the same reoccurring issues, but yeah. Who knows.
Sam Ovens: 43:53 Got it. You should think about it, because you can, if you really want to help people, then you should try and help as many as you can.
Corin Hinderegg: 44:03 Yeah.
Sam Ovens: 44:05 And you can help more than 40 if you figure out their thing.
Corin Hinderegg: 44:11 Yeah.
Sam Ovens: 44:13 It's a pretty big thing.
Corin Hinderegg: 44:15 It's definitely something playing in my mind, and I'm definitely going to work on it. It's one step at a time.
Sam Ovens: 44:24 Mm-hmm (affirmative). And then, what was the most transformational part of going through a Consulting Accelerator for you?
Corin Hinderegg: 44:33 To be frankly honest, I haven't finished yet, as my time is sort of limited. I'm still working on it. At the moment, I'm working on big four, and I can see the ones I implement, that there will be a huge shift and change, but I do love the ... what really make the most change for me was in week one, thinking about how can I give my clients the outcome they desire in a short enough period of time? That made a huge shift, that opened up for me opportunities to serve more clients, and I, yeah, that was really good. And I love the mindset. I always did inner work and I still do, I love that, but the mindset in creating the next best version of myself, that made a huge shift and change.
Sam Ovens: 45:31 How come?
Corin Hinderegg: 45:35 As you keep saying, and that really resonates with me, like ... I created my reality. Everything around me. When I stop being the person I am now, and really live from or implementing the traits a person who has always on the next level, or who is where I want to go, then the reality will happen as I changed. It very, very much resonates with me, and I really, I really enjoy making the changes, and I see it in my family. I actually really do. I see the changes. I see the changes happening, and it's just a few tweaks here and there, and implementing a few more corrector traits, like being a lot more organized and doing these things, and to be frankly honest, I feel fabulous doing those things. Even I resisted it all these years. That made a huge change for me.
Sam Ovens: 46:41 Got it. Then, how can people, what would your number one piece of advice be for other members of Consulting Accelerated, who are going through all this?
Corin Hinderegg: 46:57 To go back and revisit. Like, working it through, and then go back and revisit. As I find, the second time around, you get a lot more details, whereas the first time around you sort of, most of them probably couldn't grasp or forgot by the time they finished, my number one advice is really implementing week two, and yeah. Just do it again, and really integrate what you've learned, and not stop. Really, do the work.
Sam Ovens: 47:37 That's good advice, and how can people learn more about you, if people are heart centered entrepreneurs, or heart centered coaches, or they want, they're heartless and they want a heart, how do they learn more about you?
Corin Hinderegg: 47:52 That's a good question. I don't really have a online platform yet. I'm working on my website. My website will be online in the next 2- 3 weeks, but probably LinkedIn at the moment.
Sam Ovens: 48:05 They go to LinkedIn and they search for your name, Corin, and say your last name, because I'm not very good at saying it.
Corin Hinderegg: 48:13 Hinderegger.
Sam Ovens: 48:13 Hinderegger. Corin Hinderegger. Awesome. Well, cool thanks for jumping on and sharing your story, and I'm looking forward to following up and harassing you in about six to 12 months and making sure that you, that 40 turns into like, 10,000.
Corin Hinderegg: 48:34 Okay, that will be fabulous.
Sam Ovens: 48:35 Awesome.
Corin Hinderegg: 48:35 I'm definitely going to do the next training too, once I'm ready.
Sam Ovens: 48:40 Awesome. Looking forward to it. See you later.
Corin Hinderegg: 48:43 Thanks, bye.